Hey Guys! New..and What Kind Of Heli?

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By Hellifun on Mar 31, 2016 at 10:10 AM
  1. Hellifun

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    Hey Guys! Just wanted to say hello and been wanting to try rc heli flying and a friend gave this one to fix and try out..Don't know anything about it. Looks like a cheapo. But I know there's a couple wires that have to be soldered back to the output board or whatever you call it. Does anyone know anything about this chassis and if there's any upgrades for it? Thanks guys, Dave
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    1. maingeer

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      yeah I think I know what it is. But the name is a bit blurry. It's something horse??? or was it horse something???
       
    2. smakmeharder

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      Hi @helifun great to have you onboard.

      I am not sure on the brand but i can see from the design its good to learn with IF You can get parts. @Beaver and @maingeer are really good with the clones and finding a really economical way to learn.

      This heli looks to be a double horse coaxial. Good pickup @maingeer - i typed in horse coaxial into google and found this. http://www.xenonproject.com/rc-heli...r-s031g-jumbo-metal-dragon-gyro-p-136716.html

      I would say that @Beaver and @maingeer are the masters on this forum when it comes to practical flying. This helicopter is known as a coaxial (it has two sets of main blades counter rotating) and while its a bit simpler to fly, it no where near as direct as the advance collective pitch helicopters. But to be honest you need something like this to learn your orientations on.

      Please think about investing in a SIM! it will save you Lots of money due to reduced crashing. And most of all have fun... learning can be challenging, but once over the first initial learning hump its a wild ride from that point forward.
       
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    3. Hellifun

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      ok..thanks guys!!
       
    4. Beaver

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      Welcome to Heligods.
      That one is not much different from the Syma S033g I have that I converted to Spektrum 2.4gHz DSMx. I may know a source for parts. If you have a specific model number, that would help. I have some experience with the DH9118 electronics, I'm sure that one is similar if not same.
      Here are some pics of my Syma (highly modified): IMG_20151007_232116589.jpg IMG_20151007_021237287_HDR.jpg
       
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      That is a Syma S031g. Which is closely related to Double Horse. Both brands share some common parts. syma_s031_3ch_red_f.jpg
       
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      To answer your question about the wiring.....
      That small board on the side of the frame appears to be a voltage regulator. It shows in some of the photos I found, but does not appear in any parts listings. The loose red wire goes to the V+ terminal, and the loose black wire goes to the middle terminal which should be marked V- or GND, but I can't see it clearly for the blob of solder obscuring the lettering there. The yellow wire is in its correct place.
      If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. ;)
       
    7. Hellifun

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      that's a nice mod! You're right Beaver, the board is marked as you say. I will have the wires resoldered. The light comes on, on the board itself. Just hope I can get it going. If not, i'll be looking for a new one about the same scale, but maybe something of better quality so I can modify with different motors and such down the road when I get used to flying one. I'm pretty familiar with RC parts because I use to run RC cars and trucks and modify them. It's the flying part I got to get use to....thanks again!
       
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      Hi Dave, just to start off...please pardon for being frank and I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes. Just do yourself a favour and junk the POS, it's not worth the time and effort to try to revive. It's not a good platform to try to learn flying rc helis' coz most all of the controls dun represent true heli controls. You'd be better off getting a proven 4 channel model like the v911 which's stable enough for a true beginner and maneuverable enough to progress with basic orientation and bank turns till you're ready to step up to a CP.
       
    9. Beaver

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      Good point @joeclone , there are other alternatives as well.
      Recently, several makes and models of CP helis have been released that are equipped with 6-axis stabilization systems that have a beginner mode and recovery systems built in to aid in the learning process. One for example: Blade 230s.
      I almost bought one myself, but decided against it due to the direct-drive tail motor. Another was the Ares Optim 300cp, which is more of a full function CP model and somewhat comparable to a T-Rex clone, and has the multi-mode and recovery system. Parts availability stopped me from purchasing one of those. I like to be able to buy parts locally whenever possible.
      Ultimately, it boils down to personal preference and the type of flying you desire. Not being fully aware of all the options, I started with coaxials. Knowing what I know now, I should have taken a different route, but that's just me.
       
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      Thanks guys for the advise! actually I just got through watching a video on the Blade 200 SR X. I like the 3 different personal settings it has from beginner to advanced and the panic button..I may be getting this one! I really liked it!
       
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      Yes... that one has the same "SAFE" system I was talking about in the 230s. The difference being, the 230s is almost a collective pitch version of the 200SRx..... there are even a few shared parts between the two of them. Blade products are good to start with, and they have a good customer support service in place. I have two Blade helis, and they served me well.... I still fly them occasionally.
       
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      My first Blade was a 120SR, which has recently been superseded by the flybarless 120s.... which now also has "SAFE" if I'm not mistaken. I have put many hours on this bird. Here's my last video of it with LED mods for night flying:
       
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      .....and another video during daylight:
       
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      To begin just keep it cheap n simple, plan on crashing a lot,@Crash Heligod have u on his list.
       
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      very kool vids Beaver!! love the led mods!

      would you guys go ahead and buy the collective pitch or fixed pitch since both models have multi levels of flying capabilities and the panic button? thanks guys, Dave
       
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      If I had it to do over, I would have probably went with the 230s.... but that's just me. I already had some years of experience on aircraft Sims.
      For the money involved, it seems more practical to go ahead and get the 230s RTF since the price difference isn't so much more ($40 more than 200SRx RTF). Flying collective pitch in beginner mode wont be much different from the 200srx since the control rates are limited to help avoid getting too far out of control. Already having the 230s will be an advantage to you, especially if you progress quickly. You will have skipped the fixed pitch phase I went through, and wont have to buy another heli to get to the next level.
       
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      ok..thanks fella!!
       
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      Hey guys..i was wandering if the spektrum DSX 6 or DSX 6i would be a good transmitter over the stock one that comes with the Blade 230 s? thanks, Dave
       
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      DX6i would be better than the default transmitter for certain.
       
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