some pics of the k-bar yellow

 

Whats the little button for mate

 

on the yellow one - is allows the kbar to be mounted sideways - which a vbar normally can't do..

 

Good write up, jockstrap.

I highly recommend using a 3300uf or larger capacitor on any of these gyros, when standard size servos are being used.
http://www.rpphobby.com/product_p/spm1600.htm

 

So @jockstrap , have you ever pulled apart a VBAR to compare? I wonder if they are identical? There must be a legitimate reason for the extra cost, ie maybe higher tolerance components, better calibration and validation?

 

@beenflying - definitely true.. I use a 4700uf on my X5...

@smackmeharder - Not me personally but others yes - they are fairly similar indeed. some use the same invensense gyro chips even but same may use slightly
lower model gyro chips - but even these lower chips can outperform a human anyway..

You aren't actually paying Mikado for the hardware - that's the cheap side.. you're paying their high price for all the R&D and testing that goes into the firmware.
That cost far more than the hardware design.

The Chinese have managed somehow to extract the firmware and simply put it into their own hardware - seeing the hardware cost little and they got the firmware for free so to speak - they can sell the finished product for peanuts..

Basically the cost is mainly for the "Software" and its development ...

 

Hey jockstrap I've just aquired a gv 8000 could I have a link to the PC software, ? Many thanks


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Self destruct button for when the Mikado Police show up

 

I have a K-Bar, it was something I bought just to try flybarless, and after realising what a good job the good people at Mikado have done, today I bought a genuine V-Bar from the local hobby shop.

 

Folks - noticed a new fill-sized kbar today.... oh yea baby!!!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271587722466

Couldn't resist - ordered one already..

@beenflying - if you see this, I visited rcgroups to see the gossip and sure enough they already know about it - but not much feedback yet.
Do you have one yet or know what sensors are in it or if it has any issues - ie: gov not working, etc

I'll post more when mine arrives thou..

 

K-Bar silver line....
Simon

 

I'd be interested to know if you could use the Kbar sensor with a VBar (just incase I smoke a sensor!)
Simon

 

I own 2x fubars and two blue kbars no issues in over a year of flying
Using on Gaui x3 trex 500 and logo 600

 

FuBars are my clone of choice They work great... the Blue kbars are my 2nd choice however, one of my recent Blue kbars had a dodgy rudder connection and I
had to reflow the solder on the microchip.. I guess most would have thrown it away and then hated them...

 

I'd have to have an original sensor to open and check to compare the 2 to find that out ..

Me thinks this may not be a silverline clone but maybe a blue or black sensor clone...
But who knows!!!! YET!!!!

 

you are a champion @jockstrap
Simon

 

We will burn in hell for using them. Mikado tried hard to stop clones. Won battle, lost war.

Open TX in Taranis is pure awesomness. I would prefer to see open architecture FBL gyro with open firmware.

Fact is Vbar is probably oldest and greatest piece of firmware. Mikado overpricing their product at $475 + $40 for soft upgrade opened doors for clones and invited them. Firmware upgrades were available from Mikado website for free to anyone before clones appeared.

Chinese make profit selling them for $27. Mikado still asks $220.

It is sad that big brands keep on overpricing strategy.

My prediction is LHS will loose their sales, web sales will dominate.

I order parts from Taiwan cheaper with shipment than I can buy them from LHS.

Minimal Advertised Prices was strategy for SAB. Anyway prices of G700 went down considerably quite fast. Marketing hype stayed. They are considered high end. Are they?

Internet is influencing the bussines. I can chat with Chase 360 designer. I hope new economy will not kill us.

 

I wish somebody would clone a bank!... or even local councils. There are industries which are protected by regulation... Mikado were clever in designing the VBAR in the first place so they deseve a bit. Talk about money ripoffs? think world banks...we need clone banks and councils lol..

 

Bloody oath mate